August 2008
“Morality, like art, means drawing a line someplace.”
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John Henry Died. That's what happened.
Tony Hicke: just read your blog
Lou Noble: yeah?
Tony Hicke: and I would like to make this comment
Tony Hicke: take that conversation
Tony Hicke: move it to 1946
Lou Noble: hahahahah
Tony Hicke: insert polaroid where it says digital
Tony Hicke: and think about it
Lou Noble: funny, but doesn't work
Tony Hicke: yes
Tony Hicke: it does
Tony Hicke: instant stisfaction
Lou Noble: you were still constrained by the limited number of shots
Lou Noble: it's not about having to wait
Tony Hicke: lame
Lou Noble: it's about limits
Tony Hicke: man
Tony Hicke: comeone
Tony Hicke: its baout technology
Lou Noble: i know it sounds silly
Lou Noble: but here's the thing
Lou Noble: hear me out
Lou Noble: i see people who start photography by shooting digital
Lou Noble: and they have a much harder time defining their style
Lou Noble: figuring out what their "voice" is
Lou Noble: it's about the ease with which you can take a good picture
Lou Noble: the lack of limits, at the beginning, hurts a photographer
Lou Noble: sure, now
Lou Noble: i could do just as fine with a digital camera
Lou Noble: my work wouldn't really suffer
Lou Noble: but there is a difference, because of that ease
2: 55 PM
Tony Hicke: so its really a personal satisfaction thing
Tony Hicke: that you had to work for it
Lou Noble: yeah, otherwise, where's the inherent value?
Tony Hicke: but if your work doesn't suffer
Tony Hicke: why is there a loss in value
Tony Hicke: maybe in personal value
Lou Noble: i think a lot of it comes to, with a digital camera, it is very easy to take a decent shot
Lou Noble: and if all digital shots are good, then where's the value?
Lou Noble: if they're all special, none of them are
Tony Hicke: progress!
Tony Hicke: its called progress!
Lou Noble: this is the price of progress
Tony Hicke: I see what you are saying
Lou Noble: i don't disagree with you
Lou Noble: digital is a technologically superior medium
Lou Noble: but i think there is a price to be paid for that advancement
Tony Hicke: but the price paid is that there is now a lot of really good pictures, but before, there were fewer
Tony Hicke: because it was harder
Lou Noble: which lessens the difference between a talented photographer and an amateur
Lou Noble: and lessens the value of photography as a whole
Tony Hicke: basically
3: 00 PM
Tony Hicke: I understand the concept
Tony Hicke: but epople aren't goign to care less a bout a beuatiful phograph
Tony Hicke: they may pay less
Tony Hicke: but I don't think they'd care less
Tony Hicke: I see, I see
Tony Hicke: I understand completely your concept
Tony Hicke: I guess because it is not my passion
Tony Hicke: I'mfine with it
Lou Noble: imagine if a machine made it possible for everyone to do geology
Lou Noble: thus making you obsolete
Tony Hicke: see
Tony Hicke: so its not about the art
Tony Hicke: its about your obsolescence
Lou Noble: well, but you consider what you do a function of your skill
Lou Noble: a bad geologist makes you mad, yes?
Tony Hicke: I suppose
Lou Noble: okay
Lou Noble: or a shitty band
Lou Noble: imagine if a machine made Shitty geologists accomplish the work that previously could only be done by good geologists
Lou Noble: dude still sucks
Lou Noble: has no talent for "the color"
Tony Hicke: HAHAHAHAH
Lou Noble: but his machine hides that
Lou Noble: you like that?
Tony Hicke: I htink you go, you learn that machine
Tony Hicke: and make better things with that machine
Lou Noble: that's what always ends up happening, yeah
Tony Hicke: its nostalgia
3: 05 PM
Tony Hicke: its somehting you hold dear
Tony Hicke: I understand
Lou Noble: on a more practical level
Lou Noble: it's of course easier to stand out this way
Lou Noble: to make a name for oneself
Lou Noble: hell, most people consider these things, like Polaroid, "hard" to take a good shot with
Tony Hicke: It seems that the conversation you two had has happened every 4 years, as technology progressed through time
Lou Noble: yep
Tony Hicke: Like
Lou Noble: it started, i didn't add this part, because i was considering digital
Tony Hicke: MAN
I USED TO DAN THE BEST DEER HID
Tony Hicke: E
Lou Noble: know what it is?
Tony Hicke: now , big wampum can tan 5 at a time
Lou Noble: it's John Henry
Tony Hicke: me so insignificant
Tony Hicke: it is John Henry
Lou Noble: and we all know what happened to him
Tony Hicke: Won the lottery, retired in Hollywood, became a pornstar, fdies with a smile on his face
Digital is Dancing with the Dead
Kris Hannum: i don't know digital is for a certain breed. and i am definitely not of that.
Lou Noble: it's just so economical
Lou Noble: and i'd be able to see shots right away
Kris Hannum: and unfulfilling
Lou Noble: yeah
Lou Noble: sigh
Lou Noble: so cold, it's so cold
Kris Hannum: i mean....i have a really sour taste right away for digital just because of flickr.
Kris Hannum: like, one of the main reasons we all stand out on flickr is because we're doing something that the majority of that whole website is not.
Lou Noble: yeah, you're right
Kris Hannum: once you cross over to the d(ark)igital side, that's all behind you.
Kris Hannum: you're just another "photographer"
Lou Noble: yeah
Lou Noble: it'd take all the skill out of it
Kris Hannum: right
Lou Noble: and then where's the satisfaction?
Kris Hannum: exactly
Kris Hannum: it's too easy
Kris Hannum: it's no fun
2: 05 PM
Kris Hannum: it's just point, auto expose, shoot
Lou Noble: it's dead, it's like working with the dead
Kris Hannum: don't like it, no probs, delete it and do it again
Kris Hannum: it takes every bit of adventure out of taking pictures. for me at least.
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